most of all, it is an example of what this country is and that we are, first of all, a nation of laws. >> right. >> i mean the appointed hour comes and the old president leaves, the new president comes in, there's never any question about it they don't have to use guns. there's never any doubt. that doesn't happen in a lot of places in the world. >> i don't think it happens in most places in the world. >> and to me that's the most wonderful part of it. >> yeah. your first inauguration was 1965. >> yes. >> lyndon johnson. >> uh-huh. >> what brought you to the inauguration then? >> i was the reporter for fort star telegram. lindinynnindin johnson was from texas. my mother worked in precinct politics and someone said would you like to have some tickets to the inauguration, so we came and it was a wonderful time. >> what do you remember about it most? >> well just seeing washington really, and seeing -- everything seemed bigger than life. the buildings seemed bigger than any buildings i had ever seen before, the capitol, and the politicians. just seeing them. somehow i felt like i was in